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    Posted: Mar/21/2014 at 7:57am
Hello Everyone,

My name is Phil.  I joined this forum looking for a resource to grow my new practice.  I am set up as a Fee-Only RIA. I am a CFA Charterholder and partnered with my long-time friend who is a CPA.

I created my website on Squarespace (template builder) and would recommend it to any looking for a website company - extremely easy to use.  Please critique my website http://phillipjamesfinancial.com

I look forward to sharing with this community as we all grow our practices and help each other out.

All my best,
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Welcome to the board.  Slick website.
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Yeah.  Your website is awesome.  Teaming up with your buddy is a good play too.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OracleofMN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Mar/21/2014 at 9:27am
Thanks Guys!  Appreciate the support!  Looking forward to more disucssions.
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Very nice website!
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Welcome...I was surprised to see you're not the bald guy.

Edited by City1134 - Mar/21/2014 at 10:02am
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Very nice website. The details explaining the mechanics of your services should go well with prospects who would otherwise know nothing of the industry.
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Ha!  I was wondering if people were going to think that.  And no the lady is not my wife either!  Just marketing videos.  I wrote the script and had a professional read it.  Much better then spending $500 on equipment and weeks trying to learn how to use it and speak well on camera.  I'm a big fan of outsourcing when I can.
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Cool site.  I like your highlighting of the back door roth, I think that's a great way to show value regardless of whether they want to pursue it.  A true test for the objectivity of an advisor is whether they would be willing to recommend that clients actually take their IRAs out from under the advisor and make it untouchable.  Are you still able to charge asset based fees against those?
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Thanks!  I see you were checking out my blog.  And while yes, I agree with your premise about objectivity, we actually do bill on outside accounts (if we are managing them).  The issue comes with actually billing.  You cannot bill the outside accounts directly, so you need to have a taxable brokerage account set up and the client has to actively put money in to just pay the fees.  As far as managing, the clients provide a user name and login.  There have been many discussions on whether or not this denotes custody.  I am operating under the premise that it does not.
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Originally posted by OracleofMN OracleofMN wrote:

Thanks!  I see you were checking out my blog.  And while yes, I agree with your premise about objectivity, we actually do bill on outside accounts (if we are managing them).  The issue comes with actually billing.  You cannot bill the outside accounts directly, so you need to have a taxable brokerage account set up and the client has to actively put money in to just pay the fees.  As far as managing, the clients provide a user name and login.  There have been many discussions on whether or not this denotes custody.  I am operating under the premise that it does not.

This is considered custody by many. It also depends what type of transactions you are able to accomplish with a login. I can tell you that if you are able to change the address through the client's online portal (and also presumably request a distribution), then this would almost definitely be considered custody.
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You are correct.  The ability to move money is a key point. Here is a good article about this...http://www.fa-mag.com/news/advisors-want-clarity-on-sec-custody-complaints-13534.html  The Comments are good too.
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CFA guy (can't call you the oracle yet, people around here would probably get butt-hurt). What sort of prospecting methods do you and the CPA use? How much soup doors he consume in any given week?
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I think marketing your value proposition by fee is a mistake.  People will shop the price, not the value.  Just my 2 cents.  I know others will say diffierently and that you may build faster than if you actually tried to be different.  But if you're making the fee be everything your about, then people will leave when they don't see the performance they want or find someone else with a lower fee.

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Originally posted by GreatPlans GreatPlans wrote:

I think marketing your value proposition by fee is a mistake.  People will shop the price, not the value.  Just my 2 cents.  I know others will say diffierently and that you may build faster than if you actually tried to be different.  But if you're making the fee be everything your about, then people will leave when they don't see the performance they want or find someone else with a lower fee.

Welcome.

GP, this is the new "thing" among all these young, newly minted RIA's. They spend most of their energy bashing the entire industry and talking about how being fee-only "differentiates" them somehow.

I just think it's bad for our industry when a large number of industry "professionals" use this tactic as a cornerstone of their value proposition and marketing plan.
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Originally posted by B24 B24 wrote:


Originally posted by GreatPlans GreatPlans wrote:

I think marketing your value proposition by fee is a mistake.  People will shop the price, not the value.  Just my 2 cents.  I know others will say diffierently and that you may build faster than if you actually tried to be different.  But if you're making the fee be everything your about, then people will leave when they don't see the performance they want or find someone else with a lower fee.

Welcome.


GP, this is the new "thing" among all these young, newly minted RIA's. They spend most of their energy bashing the entire industry and talking about how being fee-only "differentiates" them somehow.

I just think it's bad for our industry when a large number of industry "professionals" use this tactic as a cornerstone of their value proposition and marketing plan.

Exactly.  Most people don't mind that your compensation is "tailored" (used because of another thread) to their needs.

I think people care more about their own situation, how you plan to help, and the service that you're going to provide than loudly and routinely shouting how they compensate you.  (Yes, of course disclose).  

Just some feedback though, not an attack.  


Edited by GreatPlans - Mar/21/2014 at 4:02pm
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Fuck this guy.  Go work at Vanguard buddy.  He will be out of business in a year anyway once his blog failsto net him any clients.
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Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

Fuck this guy.  Go work at Vanguard buddy.  He will be out of business in a year anyway once his blog failsto net him any clients.


Don't be mad bro. Just because his "back door strategies" posts were different than what you were looking for doesn't mean you have to get all militant.
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Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

Fuck this guy.  Go work at Vanguard buddy.  He will be out of business in a year anyway once his blog failsto net him any clients.



I see that the Panini has not tempered your enthusiasm for being the asshole that you are.
(Although I agree with your (and b24 and GP's) premise)
If you eat an entire cake without cutting it, then technically, you only had one piece
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Originally posted by Sportsfreak Sportsfreak wrote:

Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

Fuck this guy.  Go work at Vanguard buddy.  He will be out of business in a year anyway once his blog failsto net him any clients.



I see that the Panini has not tempered your enthusiasm for being the asshole that you are.
(Although I agree with your (and b24 and GP's) premise)


Quit posting from your fucking lemon party.
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