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Topic: I need to quit my job. I know this is for me.
Posted By: Jake48
Subject: I need to quit my job. I know this is for me.
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:42am
I work 35-40 hours a week and make 400k selling door to door. Thing is i have no passion for it and cant take it any more. Ive been doing it since I graduated college in 2012. And im done. I dont care about the money ill do a job for 100k if i can sell something im passionate about and that makes a difference in peoples lives. I want to be in a profession where I feel fulfilled. as soon as my times up im out. I have no problem cold contacting people, its all ive done for years, all day every day mom-saturday. And all Ive heard people complain about in this indistry prospecting and cold calling. i am the best sales person in my industry. Probably sold some of yall lol. I can do it all day rejection doesnt scare me. I know if i took a job as a financial advisor I would start at a fraction but I have NO DOUBT id eventually be making 7 figures. HERES THE PROBLEM. I couldnt tell you the difference between a stock and a bond! Im litterally as green and foreign to the financial world as anyone could be. I’m about as knowledgeable as kindergardner, seriously! And I dont like winging it. I could get a job and sell financial products all day that i kmow nothingh about but i have an ethical issue with that and speaking about something i dont understand is not something im willing to do so please dont talk to me about the jumping and learning to swim philosophy. I know you can never grasp every detail of an industry and im not trying to but i want to at least have some understanding to speak intellegentlu on the subject PRIOR to working in the field. Im a slow learner but once i learn it i excell at it. Im good at studying i just dont know what to study there so much material out there. It crossed my mind taking some night classes maybe get my mba but its too broad i just need a schooling in financial advising, the terminology, ideas, something to wrap my head around and get some grounding in. Im contracted with my current company for 18 more months so I wanted to take this time to study. Can you guys please recommend some books that I could read that would give me knowledge on the subjects that id cover so that I could study and be prepared to speak intelligently on the subject. I dont want sales books or psycology books i know all that. Freaking websites out there telling me to study art of war to be prepared for financial advising haha i get it im a salesmen but again, educational, terminology, definitions, thats what im looking for. if anyone has suggestions it would be EXTRMELY valuable to me thanks!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 2:33am
What do you sell now?

By the way, my advice would be to just stay doing what you're doing.  You aren't even 30 and you're making $400K.  It will take you 10 years to be making $400K again. 

Response to your question about books, is fuck books.  Read here.  Read at Bogleheads.org.  Hell, take the CFP courses.  That will teach you everything you need to know about what you'd be selling.  18 months, you've got time.


Posted By: Wet_Blanket
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 8:08am
Helado - money doesn't matter to him.  If he gets into financial advising, and doesn't like it, do you really think he would have a hard time getting is old job back?

Jake48 - Get a Series 7 study book, read that and take the practice exams.  Once you get the basics down, you can learn the nuance on the job.


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Posted By: WarPig
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 8:29am
Make sure to enter a profession where you don't have to communicate with clients via the written word. Paragraphs bro!


Posted By: luvindy
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 10:17am
Originally posted by WarPig WarPig wrote:

Make sure to enter a profession where you don't have to communicate with clients via the written word. Paragraphs bro!

Came here to say this.




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"If Barak wins this election, or appears to be clearly winning, we are all fucked. Market will tank big time."
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 10:32am
Come to Edward jones.  I usually wouldn’t recommend that, but they will start you from zero. Make a plan to stick with it for 3 yrs and then look at other options. I guess you could work on getting the CFP in your spare time 

Read wolf22’s thread. He is probably making 250-300k and did it from knocking on doors.  He is the exception, however, and you might be as well. 

You may find that this profession is as unethical as yours. I’m going to guess Comcast?




Posted By: Wet_Blanket
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 10:38am
I think his story is fake.  Nathan tells us all the time it is impossible to make money in CA.

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Posted By: WarPig
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:01am
Originally posted by Wet_Blanket Wet_Blanket wrote:

I think his story is fake.  Nathan tells us all the time it is impossible to make money in CA.

Are you on vacation this week?


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Posted By: Jake48
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:05am
Oops meant to “quote” someone instead of reply i think


Posted By: Jake48
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:12am
Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

What do you sell now?

By the way, my advice would be to just stay doing what you're doing.  You aren't even 30 and you're making $400K.  It will take you 10 years to be making $400K again. 

Response to your question about books, is fuck books.  Read here.  Read at Bogleheads.org.  Hell, take the CFP courses.  That will teach you everything you need to know about what you'd be selling.  18 months, you've got time.



Cool, thanks. Do those classes expect you to come in with a knowledge of anything before hand? I remember skipping a pre req class in college and it was the longest semester of my life.

I like that idea, but I would really be going in with no knowledge though. If they expect the students to come in not knowing anything then I might go that route


Posted By: Wet_Blanket
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:13am
Series 7 practice books/exams will teach you the basics of investing (as in what a stock is, an option, a bond, etc.).

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Posted By: Wet_Blanket
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:13am
Originally posted by WarPig WarPig wrote:

Originally posted by Wet_Blanket Wet_Blanket wrote:

I think his story is fake.  Nathan tells us all the time it is impossible to make money in CA.

Are you on vacation this week?
Nope. My kids are learning remote this week (from my office) so I am in the office a lot more than usual this week.

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The true 🤡 was the Biden voter all along.


Posted By: Jake48
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:13am
Originally posted by WarPig WarPig wrote:

Make sure to enter a profession where you don't have to communicate with clients via the written word. Paragraphs bro!


Haha sorry about, I was semi venting on my phone and didn't think to put those in my bad lol


Posted By: Jake48
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:16am
Originally posted by Wet_Blanket Wet_Blanket wrote:

Series 7 practice books/exams will teach you the basics of investing (as in what a stock is, an option, a bond, etc.).


Thank you for this man. I think coupling this with the cfp classes would help me a lot, thanks for the idea


Posted By: Iamlegend
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:25am
The CFP classes have no pre-reqs and they are online for the most part. 


Posted By: Jake48
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:36am
Originally posted by bc2051 bc2051 wrote:

Come to Edward jones.  I usually wouldn’t recommend that, but they will start you from zero. Make a plan to stick with it for 3 yrs and then look at other options. I guess you could work on getting the CFP in your spare time 

Read wolf22’s thread. He is probably making 250-300k and did it from knocking on doors.  He is the exception, however, and you might be as well. 

You may find that this profession is as unethical as yours. I’m going to guess Comcast?





Ok cool. Seems to be a reoccurring idea to take the CFP classes, thanks bro. As far as Edward Jones goes, why would you typically not recommend it?

I’ve heard their “programs” or whatever that they use to manage clients portfolios isn’t very “advanced” or whatever, that the other companies are more catered to high net worth individuals. Is that true? Does it matter?

Also, if I did three years there and transferred somewhere else wouldn't they give me issues bringing my people to the other place?

Aside from those two issues, I like the idea of them teaching me from nothing, because that’s where I am at. Do the other companies expect you to come in with an existing knowledge of the industry ?

And I like the door knocking approach, would other companies frown on knocking on doors? What about during the pandemic?

I knocked beginning of spring and all summer with the pandemic and had a lot of success.. would the finance companies give me an issue doing that now?

I guess in the next 18 months things would probably be more normal..hopefully.

I sell Alarms for a company Vivint. Just to be clear, I’m in no way unethical.

Apparently I butchered that, what I was trying to say was I find it unethical to sell something I don’t have an understanding off, thanks for helping me clarify that..


Posted By: Jake48
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 11:38am
Originally posted by luvindy luvindy wrote:

Originally posted by WarPig WarPig wrote:

Make sure to enter a profession where you don't have to communicate with clients via the written word. Paragraphs bro!


Came here to say this.






Posted By: B24
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:27pm
You make 400K selling alarms?

Not for nothing, but I might milk that for a while, spend a few years getting your CFP, reading as much as you can about our business, and spend some time networking with people in our business before you just jump right in cold. You may get lucky and come across someone that is looking to hire a young guy to eventually take over his practice.

Fuck, honestly, if I was making 400K at age 30, I'm not so sure I would be jumping that quickly to leave and get into this business.

Oh, and plow as much money into savings as possible.


Posted By: luvindy
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:42pm
Back when I was door knocking, I learned the business by listening to a quality AM radio show. It was just moving to podcast. Listen to the right shit and you can learn a lot. 

I have no idea what is available that's quality anymore, but I would guess something would exist.


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8/31/12,Sportsfreak:
"If Barak wins this election, or appears to be clearly winning, we are all fucked. Market will tank big time."
Dow 13,090 S&P 1406
5/23/13 UC:Dow 20k before 20% crrectn Dow 15,


Posted By: newbieRIA
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:44pm
I made 873k at 30 years old, it almost killed me.  I think this kid is smart for getting out of a very transactional business and start something reoccuring.  He will be 40 making 500-750k a year reoccuring if he can hustle as much as he said.  Def get into ethic training and learn how to invest a portfolio.  This job is a sale job with knowledge of asset allocation.  Thats all it is if you just want to put people in model portfolios and not do planning work.


Posted By: RIArules
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:48pm
Is this the guy who replaced Wet’s windows aka fucked his wife?

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Posted By: Wet_Blanket
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by RIArules RIArules wrote:

Is this the guy who replaced Wet’s windows aka fucked his wife?
Watch your tongue! I got a 6% discount! 

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The true 🤡 was the Biden voter all along.


Posted By: Chips
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:56pm
I learned a lot listening to podcasts and following personal finance subreddits when I was in college. Highly recommend Stacking Benjamin’s as a podcast. Also, We study billionaires for general investing knowledge. 


Posted By: B24
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by newbieRIA newbieRIA wrote:

I made 873k at 30 years old, it almost killed me.  I think this kid is smart for getting out of a very transactional business and start something reoccuring.  He will be 40 making 500-750k a year reoccuring if he can hustle as much as he said.  Def get into ethic training and learn how to invest a portfolio.  This job is a sale job with knowledge of asset allocation.  Thats all it is if you just want to put people in model portfolios and not do planning work.

You know how many people we have seen and heard that can "hustle", that made it 3 months in this industry?

So, you're saying he is going to be roughly a million-dollar producer ten years from now, just because he's good at selling alarm systems? Confused


Posted By: wiredup
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by Jake48 Jake48 wrote:

I work 35-40 hours a week and make 400k selling door to door. Thing is i have no passion for it and cant take it any more. Ive been doing it since I graduated college in 2012. And im done. I dont care about the money ill do a job for 100k if i can sell something im passionate about and that makes a difference in peoples lives. I want to be in a profession where I feel fulfilled. as soon as my times up im out. I have no problem cold contacting people, its all ive done for years, all day every day mom-saturday. And all Ive heard people complain about in this indistry prospecting and cold calling. i am the best sales person in my industry. Probably sold some of yall lol. I can do it all day rejection doesnt scare me. I know if i took a job as a financial advisor I would start at a fraction but I have NO DOUBT id eventually be making 7 figures. HERES THE PROBLEM. I couldnt tell you the difference between a stock and a bond! Im litterally as green and foreign to the financial world as anyone could be. I’m about as knowledgeable as kindergardner, seriously! And I dont like winging it. I could get a job and sell financial products all day that i kmow nothingh about but i have an ethical issue with that and speaking about something i dont understand is not something im willing to do so please dont talk to me about the jumping and learning to swim philosophy. I know you can never grasp every detail of an industry and im not trying to but i want to at least have some understanding to speak intellegentlu on the subject PRIOR to working in the field. Im a slow learner but once i learn it i excell at it. Im good at studying i just dont know what to study there so much material out there. It crossed my mind taking some night classes maybe get my mba but its too broad i just need a schooling in financial advising, the terminology, ideas, something to wrap my head around and get some grounding in. Im contracted with my current company for 18 more months so I wanted to take this time to study. Can you guys please recommend some books that I could read that would give me knowledge on the subjects that id cover so that I could study and be prepared to speak intelligently on the subject. I dont want sales books or psycology books i know all that. Freaking websites out there telling me to study art of war to be prepared for financial advising haha i get it im a salesmen but again, educational, terminology, definitions, thats what im looking for. if anyone has suggestions it would be EXTRMELY valuable to me thanks!

Hey Fuck Face... if you’re the door to door salesman that up-sold me on the Custom Fit Limited Edition Furry Outfit, I thought you said you were discrete... keep that shit on the LOW... if not... disregard and welcome to Advisor Heads


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Posted By: wiredup
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by luvindy luvindy wrote:

Originally posted by WarPig WarPig wrote:

Make sure to enter a profession where you don't have to communicate with clients via the written word. Paragraphs bro!

Came here to say this.



Well

     Said


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Posted By: wiredup
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by Wet_Blanket Wet_Blanket wrote:

Originally posted by RIArules RIArules wrote:

Is this the guy who replaced Wet’s windows aka fucked his wife?
Watch your tongue! I got a 6% discount! 

Turn in your Socialist Card Immediately... I can’t believe you paid for something instead of waiting in a Window Line

Also. 6% is 6% haha


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“He gonna put ya’ll back in chains!”

-the guy who actually put them back in chains with the 1994 Crime Bill 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻...


Posted By: newbieRIA
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by B24 B24 wrote:

Originally posted by newbieRIA newbieRIA wrote:

I made 873k at 30 years old, it almost killed me.  I think this kid is smart for getting out of a very transactional business and start something reoccuring.  He will be 40 making 500-750k a year reoccuring if he can hustle as much as he said.  Def get into ethic training and learn how to invest a portfolio.  This job is a sale job with knowledge of asset allocation.  Thats all it is if you just want to put people in model portfolios and not do planning work.

You know how many people we have seen and heard that can "hustle", that made it 3 months in this industry?

So, you're saying he is going to be roughly a million-dollar producer ten years from now, just because he's good at selling alarm systems? Confused

If he is telling the truth, then yes absolutely.  


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 2:49pm
I’m with helado. Stay with what you are doing.

If you do want to get into the profession, learn as much as can from this board before you jump ship.

Go to Jones, like bc said. Great place to start.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 2:50pm
Originally posted by newbieRIA newbieRIA wrote:

Originally posted by B24 B24 wrote:

Originally posted by newbieRIA newbieRIA wrote:

I made 873k at 30 years old, it almost killed me.  I think this kid is smart for getting out of a very transactional business and start something reoccuring.  He will be 40 making 500-750k a year reoccuring if he can hustle as much as he said.  Def get into ethic training and learn how to invest a portfolio.  This job is a sale job with knowledge of asset allocation.  Thats all it is if you just want to put people in model portfolios and not do planning work.

You know how many people we have seen and heard that can "hustle", that made it 3 months in this industry?

So, you're saying he is going to be roughly a million-dollar producer ten years from now, just because he's good at selling alarm systems? Confused

If he is telling the truth, then yes absolutely.  

No.

This is the hardest sales job out there. 


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 7:08pm
I'd also honestly consider doing this...

1.  Stay in current job, it admittedly only takes 35-40 hours a week.
2.  Take CFP classes, read these forums, learn the finance part of this job.
3.  Join an indy b/d, or start your own RIA, while continuing to work your current job (which reads to me like he's an indy contractor there).  
4.  As this business income builds, start shifting away from alarm sales.

Do it over 3-5 years.  This is basically how I started this career (no, I didn't sell alarms).  

Guy has too good of a career to just take the leap for this industry (which has never been a sure thing, has a high failure rate anyway, and is under pricing and regulatory pressure).  Plus, he can add a bunch to his savings...maybe during this journey he finds a book to buy...and would have the money to buy it.  

My $.02.  


Posted By: luvindy
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 9:10pm
helado makes a good suggestion here. Something a new dude wouldn't appreciate that he should know is that he would have to disclose that he has another source of income if he's with a BD. Not a bad thing, but a fact of life to live with. 



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8/31/12,Sportsfreak:
"If Barak wins this election, or appears to be clearly winning, we are all fucked. Market will tank big time."
Dow 13,090 S&P 1406
5/23/13 UC:Dow 20k before 20% crrectn Dow 15,


Posted By: Wet_Blanket
Date Posted: Nov/03/2020 at 9:13pm
Wtf are you doing? There is an election on! 

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Posted By: fidgity
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 9:07am
Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

I'd also honestly consider doing this...

1.  Stay in current job, it admittedly only takes 35-40 hours a week.
2.  Take CFP classes, read these forums, learn the finance part of this job.
3.  Join an indy b/d, or start your own RIA, while continuing to work your current job (which reads to me like he's an indy contractor there).  
4.  As this business income builds, start shifting away from alarm sales.

Do it over 3-5 years.  This is basically how I started this career (no, I didn't sell alarms).  

Guy has too good of a career to just take the leap for this industry (which has never been a sure thing, has a high failure rate anyway, and is under pricing and regulatory pressure).  Plus, he can add a bunch to his savings...maybe during this journey he finds a book to buy...and would have the money to buy it.  

My $.02.  
Can you imagine, that if he did do both jobs for some amount of time, and he door knocked one of his clients and tried to sell them an alarm system.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 11:33am
He couldn't go to EDJ and still work his current job.  He'd have to go indy to do that.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 11:38am
Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

He couldn't go to EDJ and still work his current job.  He'd have to go indy to do that.

True. I'm not sure many people have the ability to build this business and work another.

There may be others like you helado, but I'd say you are an exception.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 11:47am
I actually think the way I did it was and is the absolute best way to do it.  I'd have failed in any other channel.  

It's time IN the business that drives success.  Being indy and having an income makes that time frame almost indefinite.  If everyone was given 5 years to build a book, almost no one would fail.  

My $.02.  

I don't think I had it harder, I think I had it easier...this excludes being hired onto a team at a wire (a reputable team not looking to use you) or being given a GK or an office at EDJ.  

Que the EDJ people saying GK's don't help.  Just fuck off now and don't bother posting it.  


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 11:50am
Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

I actually think the way I did it was and is the absolute best way to do it.  I'd have failed in any other channel.  

It's time IN the business that drives success.  Being indy and having an income makes that time frame almost indefinite.  If everyone was given 5 years to build a book, almost no one would fail.  

My $.02.  

I don't think I had it harder, I think I had it easier...this excludes being hired onto a team at a wire (a reputable team not looking to use you) or being given a GK or an office at EDJ.  

Que the EDJ people saying GK's don't help.  Just fuck off now and don't bother posting it.  

Being given assets doesn't help. 

I think the issue is you are disciplined business-wise. I don't think many salespeople are. 

I know how you built your business and you were able to do so with the future in mind - and it paid off. So many can't keep their eye on the prize.


Posted By: B24
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by Moraen Moraen wrote:

Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

I actually think the way I did it was and is the absolute best way to do it.  I'd have failed in any other channel.  

It's time IN the business that drives success.  Being indy and having an income makes that time frame almost indefinite.  If everyone was given 5 years to build a book, almost no one would fail.  

My $.02.  

I don't think I had it harder, I think I had it easier...this excludes being hired onto a team at a wire (a reputable team not looking to use you) or being given a GK or an office at EDJ.  

Que the EDJ people saying GK's don't help.  Just fuck off now and don't bother posting it.  

Being given assets doesn't help. 

I think the issue is you are disciplined business-wise. I don't think many salespeople are. 

I know how you built your business and you were able to do so with the future in mind - and it paid off. So many can't keep their eye on the prize.

The tough part is, it's hard to get hired at a firm that will actually allow you to do this, no? Or do indy B/D's really care?


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 12:06pm
Indy firms allow this.


Posted By: B24
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

Indy firms allow this.

The B/D does, but I assume if you get hired by an individual firm, they can say yes or no based on their own internal policies, correct? In other words, you would either need to go indy on your own, or get hired by an individual firm that would be OK with it?


Posted By: luvindy
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by B24 B24 wrote:

Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

Indy firms allow this.

The B/D does, but I assume if you get hired by an individual firm, they can say yes or no based on their own internal policies, correct? In other words, you would either need to go indy on your own, or get hired by an individual firm that would be OK with it?

To the point I made earlier; they may allow it, but they would have a lot of questions and would try to get a lot of clarity that you aren't dealing with the same people in multiple businesses. Certain firms (probably like an RJ) would say it's not worth the risk. Not sure what their current state is, but back in the day LPL probably wouldn't give a shit.


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8/31/12,Sportsfreak:
"If Barak wins this election, or appears to be clearly winning, we are all fucked. Market will tank big time."
Dow 13,090 S&P 1406
5/23/13 UC:Dow 20k before 20% crrectn Dow 15,


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 1:18pm
Originally posted by B24 B24 wrote:

Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

Indy firms allow this.

The B/D does, but I assume if you get hired by an individual firm, they can say yes or no based on their own internal policies, correct? In other words, you would either need to go indy on your own, or get hired by an individual firm that would be OK with it?

Technically I guess the OSJ could say "no."  But I think it's pretty unlikely.  They aren't usually going to care. 


Posted By: DucatiSportGT
Date Posted: Nov/04/2020 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by helado helado wrote:

I actually think the way I did it was and is the absolute best way to do it.  I'd have failed in any other channel.  

It's time IN the business that drives success.  Being indy and having an income makes that time frame almost indefinite.  If everyone was given 5 years to build a book, almost no one would fail.  

My $.02.  

I don't think I had it harder, I think I had it easier...this excludes being hired onto a team at a wire (a reputable team not looking to use you) or being given a GK or an office at EDJ.  

Que the EDJ people saying GK's don't help.  Just fuck off now and don't bother posting it.  

I can relate to an extent. I failed twice at the big corporate firms before saying fuck it and trying indy. I only brought like 1 million with me in managed assets to start. In the last two years, I've built it to about $13 million in fee based. Got the monkey off my back and it allowed me to focus much easier. Plus, I no longer had to waste half my day with bs corporate meetings. Now I just want to be giving myself a $40-50k raise every year. It is realistic. I push myself to bring in about 500k a month in new assets. In the bank, they wanted us doing 1 million a month. They promised all the leads in the world but at the end of the day, it was all bs.


Posted By: Gray
Date Posted: Nov/05/2020 at 8:57pm
Serious question and not being ugly - If you know so little about the industry - how is it that you know this particular job is for you? Helado offered a good option on transition. However, with what you are currently earning, I would consider other business options with "meaning." If your sales skills are that good, you could negotiate your way into a good purchase of an existing business, in another "meaningful" industry. You would likely have the option to keep your other job, if needed. The regulation in this industry makes that difficult.

Also, even in this industry you don't have to be a Financial Advisor to make a difference - i.e. Dave Ramsey - he has NEVER been a financial advisor. But you do have to gain the knowledge.

As for Jones - provided the structure is the same when you get hired on - Jones would pay you a base $100K salary plus $4 for every $1000 of assets you bring in. Base salary starts decreasing 8 months in and goes to zero at end of 5 years. Which won't really be an issue, if you are as successful as you think you might be, because you will quickly replace that base salary with commissions. However, you would be replacing the $100k - NOT the $400k you are currently making.

May sound cheesy, but Investopedia has some decent training, for someone starting with zero knowledge - just to get you started.


Posted By: Gray
Date Posted: Nov/05/2020 at 9:01pm
Oh - and if your current financial advisor is not training you, and you do make that kind of money, I would be happy to train you as my client.Wink



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